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I am not sure how to name my scenario properly apperantly as visible, but here is the situation:



I got multiple tables where data is inside and an application layer that inserts, deletes and updates the data.
A requirement is that i am able to log all changes entirely. To do this, i created a huge Log class that contains all classes that require logging.



The thing is: The log entries are never allowed to be deleted so that, if needed, i can recreate whatever was deleted (requires to identify all log entries for a given deleted type).



Example code:



public class Tag

public int Id get; set;
public string Name get; set;

public class Log

[Key]
public int Id get; set;

[ForeignKey(nameof(TagFK))]
public Tag Tag get; set; }
public int? TagFK get; set; }
}


TL;DR:



  • Log Table with FKs

  • Log entries need to be always existing while their related entry might get deleted.









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  • I am not sure I understand your problem fully, but I don't see why you need a FK from the log to the other tables. The log table should be standalone, and independent from the rest.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:29











  • mostly to be able to just use from log in dbcontext.Logs where ... select log

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:33











  • You still will be, but the queries will be (perhaps) slower due to lack of indices.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:37











  • so you would propose to add everything with no real relation but rather adding Indexes on all of those?

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:39






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    Indeed. I would also propose to delay adding indexes until you are certain you need them. In practice, you will be searching for log changes within a certain period of time. You will need an index by the date of the log record, and perhaps on the type of entity being logged. I have implemented a similar case in a CRM system and performance is ok, even tough our log has already more than 1 million records.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 11:18















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I am not sure how to name my scenario properly apperantly as visible, but here is the situation:



I got multiple tables where data is inside and an application layer that inserts, deletes and updates the data.
A requirement is that i am able to log all changes entirely. To do this, i created a huge Log class that contains all classes that require logging.



The thing is: The log entries are never allowed to be deleted so that, if needed, i can recreate whatever was deleted (requires to identify all log entries for a given deleted type).



Example code:



public class Tag

public int Id get; set;
public string Name get; set;

public class Log

[Key]
public int Id get; set;

[ForeignKey(nameof(TagFK))]
public Tag Tag get; set; }
public int? TagFK get; set; }
}


TL;DR:



  • Log Table with FKs

  • Log entries need to be always existing while their related entry might get deleted.









share|improve this question






















  • I am not sure I understand your problem fully, but I don't see why you need a FK from the log to the other tables. The log table should be standalone, and independent from the rest.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:29











  • mostly to be able to just use from log in dbcontext.Logs where ... select log

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:33











  • You still will be, but the queries will be (perhaps) slower due to lack of indices.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:37











  • so you would propose to add everything with no real relation but rather adding Indexes on all of those?

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:39






  • 1





    Indeed. I would also propose to delay adding indexes until you are certain you need them. In practice, you will be searching for log changes within a certain period of time. You will need an index by the date of the log record, and perhaps on the type of entity being logged. I have implemented a similar case in a CRM system and performance is ok, even tough our log has already more than 1 million records.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 11:18













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I am not sure how to name my scenario properly apperantly as visible, but here is the situation:



I got multiple tables where data is inside and an application layer that inserts, deletes and updates the data.
A requirement is that i am able to log all changes entirely. To do this, i created a huge Log class that contains all classes that require logging.



The thing is: The log entries are never allowed to be deleted so that, if needed, i can recreate whatever was deleted (requires to identify all log entries for a given deleted type).



Example code:



public class Tag

public int Id get; set;
public string Name get; set;

public class Log

[Key]
public int Id get; set;

[ForeignKey(nameof(TagFK))]
public Tag Tag get; set; }
public int? TagFK get; set; }
}


TL;DR:



  • Log Table with FKs

  • Log entries need to be always existing while their related entry might get deleted.









share|improve this question














I am not sure how to name my scenario properly apperantly as visible, but here is the situation:



I got multiple tables where data is inside and an application layer that inserts, deletes and updates the data.
A requirement is that i am able to log all changes entirely. To do this, i created a huge Log class that contains all classes that require logging.



The thing is: The log entries are never allowed to be deleted so that, if needed, i can recreate whatever was deleted (requires to identify all log entries for a given deleted type).



Example code:



public class Tag

public int Id get; set;
public string Name get; set;

public class Log

[Key]
public int Id get; set;

[ForeignKey(nameof(TagFK))]
public Tag Tag get; set; }
public int? TagFK get; set; }
}


TL;DR:



  • Log Table with FKs

  • Log entries need to be always existing while their related entry might get deleted.






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  • I am not sure I understand your problem fully, but I don't see why you need a FK from the log to the other tables. The log table should be standalone, and independent from the rest.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:29











  • mostly to be able to just use from log in dbcontext.Logs where ... select log

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:33











  • You still will be, but the queries will be (perhaps) slower due to lack of indices.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:37











  • so you would propose to add everything with no real relation but rather adding Indexes on all of those?

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:39






  • 1





    Indeed. I would also propose to delay adding indexes until you are certain you need them. In practice, you will be searching for log changes within a certain period of time. You will need an index by the date of the log record, and perhaps on the type of entity being logged. I have implemented a similar case in a CRM system and performance is ok, even tough our log has already more than 1 million records.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 11:18

















  • I am not sure I understand your problem fully, but I don't see why you need a FK from the log to the other tables. The log table should be standalone, and independent from the rest.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:29











  • mostly to be able to just use from log in dbcontext.Logs where ... select log

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:33











  • You still will be, but the queries will be (perhaps) slower due to lack of indices.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:37











  • so you would propose to add everything with no real relation but rather adding Indexes on all of those?

    – X39
    Nov 15 '18 at 10:39






  • 1





    Indeed. I would also propose to delay adding indexes until you are certain you need them. In practice, you will be searching for log changes within a certain period of time. You will need an index by the date of the log record, and perhaps on the type of entity being logged. I have implemented a similar case in a CRM system and performance is ok, even tough our log has already more than 1 million records.

    – Nick
    Nov 15 '18 at 11:18
















I am not sure I understand your problem fully, but I don't see why you need a FK from the log to the other tables. The log table should be standalone, and independent from the rest.

– Nick
Nov 15 '18 at 10:29





I am not sure I understand your problem fully, but I don't see why you need a FK from the log to the other tables. The log table should be standalone, and independent from the rest.

– Nick
Nov 15 '18 at 10:29













mostly to be able to just use from log in dbcontext.Logs where ... select log

– X39
Nov 15 '18 at 10:33





mostly to be able to just use from log in dbcontext.Logs where ... select log

– X39
Nov 15 '18 at 10:33













You still will be, but the queries will be (perhaps) slower due to lack of indices.

– Nick
Nov 15 '18 at 10:37





You still will be, but the queries will be (perhaps) slower due to lack of indices.

– Nick
Nov 15 '18 at 10:37













so you would propose to add everything with no real relation but rather adding Indexes on all of those?

– X39
Nov 15 '18 at 10:39





so you would propose to add everything with no real relation but rather adding Indexes on all of those?

– X39
Nov 15 '18 at 10:39




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Indeed. I would also propose to delay adding indexes until you are certain you need them. In practice, you will be searching for log changes within a certain period of time. You will need an index by the date of the log record, and perhaps on the type of entity being logged. I have implemented a similar case in a CRM system and performance is ok, even tough our log has already more than 1 million records.

– Nick
Nov 15 '18 at 11:18





Indeed. I would also propose to delay adding indexes until you are certain you need them. In practice, you will be searching for log changes within a certain period of time. You will need an index by the date of the log record, and perhaps on the type of entity being logged. I have implemented a similar case in a CRM system and performance is ok, even tough our log has already more than 1 million records.

– Nick
Nov 15 '18 at 11:18












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  1. Create a trigger a DB to add entry into log table before insert update and delete.


  2. Use a user to connect to DB which only has insert access to the log table and not delete or update.


  3. Better to create a log table per table if you really want to restore at some time.






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    1. Create a trigger a DB to add entry into log table before insert update and delete.


    2. Use a user to connect to DB which only has insert access to the log table and not delete or update.


    3. Better to create a log table per table if you really want to restore at some time.






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      2. Use a user to connect to DB which only has insert access to the log table and not delete or update.


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        2. Use a user to connect to DB which only has insert access to the log table and not delete or update.


        3. Better to create a log table per table if you really want to restore at some time.






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        2. Use a user to connect to DB which only has insert access to the log table and not delete or update.


        3. Better to create a log table per table if you really want to restore at some time.







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