Get rid of gray brackets arond editable text in restricted Word docs
I'm trying to work out a problem in Word that I thought was simply a glitch from 2003 until we upgraded to 2010 and the problem persisted.
For our corporate letterhead, we set up the template with placeholder text, highlight the text, and then make the document read-only with the exception of the selected text. The editable text turns yellow and gains these brackets around them:
Once these brackets appear, they'll always show on the screen. That I can handle, though I'd like to learn how to hide them on-screen if that's possible. When the document is printed while protected, it works fine.
When the document is printed while NOT protected, part of the bracket shows up on the paper!
I guess the ultimate question is, how can I get rid of the brackets altogether? I can see why they exist but in my use case they create more problems than they solve. I'd like someone to be able to read the doc without seeing brackets, and I'd like other people in my department to be able to print without having to re-restrict it first.
I tried to turn off bookmarks because that's what seemed to come up when I searched around, but that didn't do anything.
EDIT - 12/18/2012:
As requested in a comment below, here's a slimmed-down file that demonstrates the problem. Printing that should show the gray lines. If you protect it again it'll print okay, and if you remove all protection and exceptions it'll print okay.
microsoft-word microsoft-word-2010 microsoft-word-2003
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
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I'm trying to work out a problem in Word that I thought was simply a glitch from 2003 until we upgraded to 2010 and the problem persisted.
For our corporate letterhead, we set up the template with placeholder text, highlight the text, and then make the document read-only with the exception of the selected text. The editable text turns yellow and gains these brackets around them:
Once these brackets appear, they'll always show on the screen. That I can handle, though I'd like to learn how to hide them on-screen if that's possible. When the document is printed while protected, it works fine.
When the document is printed while NOT protected, part of the bracket shows up on the paper!
I guess the ultimate question is, how can I get rid of the brackets altogether? I can see why they exist but in my use case they create more problems than they solve. I'd like someone to be able to read the doc without seeing brackets, and I'd like other people in my department to be able to print without having to re-restrict it first.
I tried to turn off bookmarks because that's what seemed to come up when I searched around, but that didn't do anything.
EDIT - 12/18/2012:
As requested in a comment below, here's a slimmed-down file that demonstrates the problem. Printing that should show the gray lines. If you protect it again it'll print okay, and if you remove all protection and exceptions it'll print okay.
microsoft-word microsoft-word-2010 microsoft-word-2003
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
I can't reproduce it on my side, can you simplify your document and attach it somewhere?
– Adam
Dec 18 '12 at 11:06
@Adam edited post to add! Thanks for your interest :)
– Brendan
Dec 18 '12 at 18:56
Thanks for that and sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I will post my finding as an answer.
– Adam
Jan 2 '13 at 4:07
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I'm trying to work out a problem in Word that I thought was simply a glitch from 2003 until we upgraded to 2010 and the problem persisted.
For our corporate letterhead, we set up the template with placeholder text, highlight the text, and then make the document read-only with the exception of the selected text. The editable text turns yellow and gains these brackets around them:
Once these brackets appear, they'll always show on the screen. That I can handle, though I'd like to learn how to hide them on-screen if that's possible. When the document is printed while protected, it works fine.
When the document is printed while NOT protected, part of the bracket shows up on the paper!
I guess the ultimate question is, how can I get rid of the brackets altogether? I can see why they exist but in my use case they create more problems than they solve. I'd like someone to be able to read the doc without seeing brackets, and I'd like other people in my department to be able to print without having to re-restrict it first.
I tried to turn off bookmarks because that's what seemed to come up when I searched around, but that didn't do anything.
EDIT - 12/18/2012:
As requested in a comment below, here's a slimmed-down file that demonstrates the problem. Printing that should show the gray lines. If you protect it again it'll print okay, and if you remove all protection and exceptions it'll print okay.
microsoft-word microsoft-word-2010 microsoft-word-2003
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
I'm trying to work out a problem in Word that I thought was simply a glitch from 2003 until we upgraded to 2010 and the problem persisted.
For our corporate letterhead, we set up the template with placeholder text, highlight the text, and then make the document read-only with the exception of the selected text. The editable text turns yellow and gains these brackets around them:
Once these brackets appear, they'll always show on the screen. That I can handle, though I'd like to learn how to hide them on-screen if that's possible. When the document is printed while protected, it works fine.
When the document is printed while NOT protected, part of the bracket shows up on the paper!
I guess the ultimate question is, how can I get rid of the brackets altogether? I can see why they exist but in my use case they create more problems than they solve. I'd like someone to be able to read the doc without seeing brackets, and I'd like other people in my department to be able to print without having to re-restrict it first.
I tried to turn off bookmarks because that's what seemed to come up when I searched around, but that didn't do anything.
EDIT - 12/18/2012:
As requested in a comment below, here's a slimmed-down file that demonstrates the problem. Printing that should show the gray lines. If you protect it again it'll print okay, and if you remove all protection and exceptions it'll print okay.
microsoft-word microsoft-word-2010 microsoft-word-2003
microsoft-word microsoft-word-2010 microsoft-word-2003
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
edited Jun 20 at 18:54
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
asked Sep 24 '12 at 20:31
Brendan
1812213
1812213
I can't reproduce it on my side, can you simplify your document and attach it somewhere?
– Adam
Dec 18 '12 at 11:06
@Adam edited post to add! Thanks for your interest :)
– Brendan
Dec 18 '12 at 18:56
Thanks for that and sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I will post my finding as an answer.
– Adam
Jan 2 '13 at 4:07
add a comment |Â
I can't reproduce it on my side, can you simplify your document and attach it somewhere?
– Adam
Dec 18 '12 at 11:06
@Adam edited post to add! Thanks for your interest :)
– Brendan
Dec 18 '12 at 18:56
Thanks for that and sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I will post my finding as an answer.
– Adam
Jan 2 '13 at 4:07
I can't reproduce it on my side, can you simplify your document and attach it somewhere?
– Adam
Dec 18 '12 at 11:06
I can't reproduce it on my side, can you simplify your document and attach it somewhere?
– Adam
Dec 18 '12 at 11:06
@Adam edited post to add! Thanks for your interest :)
– Brendan
Dec 18 '12 at 18:56
@Adam edited post to add! Thanks for your interest :)
– Brendan
Dec 18 '12 at 18:56
Thanks for that and sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I will post my finding as an answer.
– Adam
Jan 2 '13 at 4:07
Thanks for that and sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I will post my finding as an answer.
– Adam
Jan 2 '13 at 4:07
add a comment |Â
6 Answers
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I can reproduce the same issue with your test document. I have taken a look at the XML inside the document and found that there are no extra elements around the text that could possibly be causing the problem so that behavior is just a bug of Microsoft Word.
Further to your issue I found no way of removing the yellow brackets around editable ranges when document protection is enabled. My guess is they are there to show users what part of the document they can edit so there was never thought of an option to turn them off.
I can suggest one other way to achieve what you are looking for which can avoid both of the issues you are facing. Use protected sections with filling in forms enabled instead of editable ranges:
- Firstly insert continuous section breaks around the content want to
remain editable. - Click on Restrict Editing from the Review toolbar
- Under Editing Restrictions choose Filling in Forms.
- Click Select Sections underneath and select all the other
sections that are not part of your editable content, for example in
your simple document that would be Section 1 and Section 3. - Click Start enforcing protection.
What you should find after this is done is you can still only edit that particular part of the document and not the rest of the document, however now there are no yellow brackets as you desired and also should be no artifacts when printing. Obviously I'm assuming your other sections do not contain form fields otherwise they will be editable.
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
add a comment |Â
I found that in the Protect Document settings, there is a box "Highlight Fields I can Edit" and if I uncheck the box, the brackets go away.
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
add a comment |Â
Go to the Office button then in Word Options select the Advanced menu. In Show Document Content, unmark "show bookmarks"
OR
On the Insert tab under the Links menu section, select Bookmark then delete the bookmarks you want.
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
add a comment |Â
Go to restrict editing under Review tab. Click restrict editing and on your right hand will appear a dialogue window. Untick " Highlight the regions I can edit.
The square parenthesis will be removed.
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
add a comment |Â
To get rid of the gray brackets around editable text in Microsoft Word 2010, go to File Tab - Option - Advanced - stroll down to the Show document content section and deselect Show bookmarks.
Hope this solve your issue.
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
add a comment |Â
After reading all answers and finding no solution to my particular case, I was inspired by the answer regarding Restrict Editing; I went back to my doc and found out it had a [bracket at the beginning and at the end of text]; My solution was to cut the text INSIDE the brackets WITHOUT the brackets and pasting it outside.
Then I just selected the brackets and pressed Delete key. And THAT removed the shading for me.
Hope it helps someone with the same issue.
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
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6 Answers
6
active
oldest
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6 Answers
6
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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I can reproduce the same issue with your test document. I have taken a look at the XML inside the document and found that there are no extra elements around the text that could possibly be causing the problem so that behavior is just a bug of Microsoft Word.
Further to your issue I found no way of removing the yellow brackets around editable ranges when document protection is enabled. My guess is they are there to show users what part of the document they can edit so there was never thought of an option to turn them off.
I can suggest one other way to achieve what you are looking for which can avoid both of the issues you are facing. Use protected sections with filling in forms enabled instead of editable ranges:
- Firstly insert continuous section breaks around the content want to
remain editable. - Click on Restrict Editing from the Review toolbar
- Under Editing Restrictions choose Filling in Forms.
- Click Select Sections underneath and select all the other
sections that are not part of your editable content, for example in
your simple document that would be Section 1 and Section 3. - Click Start enforcing protection.
What you should find after this is done is you can still only edit that particular part of the document and not the rest of the document, however now there are no yellow brackets as you desired and also should be no artifacts when printing. Obviously I'm assuming your other sections do not contain form fields otherwise they will be editable.
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
add a comment |Â
I can reproduce the same issue with your test document. I have taken a look at the XML inside the document and found that there are no extra elements around the text that could possibly be causing the problem so that behavior is just a bug of Microsoft Word.
Further to your issue I found no way of removing the yellow brackets around editable ranges when document protection is enabled. My guess is they are there to show users what part of the document they can edit so there was never thought of an option to turn them off.
I can suggest one other way to achieve what you are looking for which can avoid both of the issues you are facing. Use protected sections with filling in forms enabled instead of editable ranges:
- Firstly insert continuous section breaks around the content want to
remain editable. - Click on Restrict Editing from the Review toolbar
- Under Editing Restrictions choose Filling in Forms.
- Click Select Sections underneath and select all the other
sections that are not part of your editable content, for example in
your simple document that would be Section 1 and Section 3. - Click Start enforcing protection.
What you should find after this is done is you can still only edit that particular part of the document and not the rest of the document, however now there are no yellow brackets as you desired and also should be no artifacts when printing. Obviously I'm assuming your other sections do not contain form fields otherwise they will be editable.
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
add a comment |Â
I can reproduce the same issue with your test document. I have taken a look at the XML inside the document and found that there are no extra elements around the text that could possibly be causing the problem so that behavior is just a bug of Microsoft Word.
Further to your issue I found no way of removing the yellow brackets around editable ranges when document protection is enabled. My guess is they are there to show users what part of the document they can edit so there was never thought of an option to turn them off.
I can suggest one other way to achieve what you are looking for which can avoid both of the issues you are facing. Use protected sections with filling in forms enabled instead of editable ranges:
- Firstly insert continuous section breaks around the content want to
remain editable. - Click on Restrict Editing from the Review toolbar
- Under Editing Restrictions choose Filling in Forms.
- Click Select Sections underneath and select all the other
sections that are not part of your editable content, for example in
your simple document that would be Section 1 and Section 3. - Click Start enforcing protection.
What you should find after this is done is you can still only edit that particular part of the document and not the rest of the document, however now there are no yellow brackets as you desired and also should be no artifacts when printing. Obviously I'm assuming your other sections do not contain form fields otherwise they will be editable.
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
I can reproduce the same issue with your test document. I have taken a look at the XML inside the document and found that there are no extra elements around the text that could possibly be causing the problem so that behavior is just a bug of Microsoft Word.
Further to your issue I found no way of removing the yellow brackets around editable ranges when document protection is enabled. My guess is they are there to show users what part of the document they can edit so there was never thought of an option to turn them off.
I can suggest one other way to achieve what you are looking for which can avoid both of the issues you are facing. Use protected sections with filling in forms enabled instead of editable ranges:
- Firstly insert continuous section breaks around the content want to
remain editable. - Click on Restrict Editing from the Review toolbar
- Under Editing Restrictions choose Filling in Forms.
- Click Select Sections underneath and select all the other
sections that are not part of your editable content, for example in
your simple document that would be Section 1 and Section 3. - Click Start enforcing protection.
What you should find after this is done is you can still only edit that particular part of the document and not the rest of the document, however now there are no yellow brackets as you desired and also should be no artifacts when printing. Obviously I'm assuming your other sections do not contain form fields otherwise they will be editable.
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
edited Jan 2 '13 at 4:33
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
answered Jan 2 '13 at 4:22
Adam
5,95721835
5,95721835
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
add a comment |Â
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
Thanks for your interest, your research, and your answer. And for the workaround too; I'll have to give that a try!
– Brendan
Jan 2 '13 at 15:00
add a comment |Â
I found that in the Protect Document settings, there is a box "Highlight Fields I can Edit" and if I uncheck the box, the brackets go away.
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
add a comment |Â
I found that in the Protect Document settings, there is a box "Highlight Fields I can Edit" and if I uncheck the box, the brackets go away.
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
add a comment |Â
I found that in the Protect Document settings, there is a box "Highlight Fields I can Edit" and if I uncheck the box, the brackets go away.
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
I found that in the Protect Document settings, there is a box "Highlight Fields I can Edit" and if I uncheck the box, the brackets go away.
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
answered Jan 3 '14 at 17:10
Don Dewsnap
111
111
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
Go to the Office button then in Word Options select the Advanced menu. In Show Document Content, unmark "show bookmarks"
OR
On the Insert tab under the Links menu section, select Bookmark then delete the bookmarks you want.
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
add a comment |Â
Go to the Office button then in Word Options select the Advanced menu. In Show Document Content, unmark "show bookmarks"
OR
On the Insert tab under the Links menu section, select Bookmark then delete the bookmarks you want.
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
add a comment |Â
Go to the Office button then in Word Options select the Advanced menu. In Show Document Content, unmark "show bookmarks"
OR
On the Insert tab under the Links menu section, select Bookmark then delete the bookmarks you want.
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
Go to the Office button then in Word Options select the Advanced menu. In Show Document Content, unmark "show bookmarks"
OR
On the Insert tab under the Links menu section, select Bookmark then delete the bookmarks you want.
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
edited Apr 16 '16 at 7:26
Mokubai♦
56.8k16135153
56.8k16135153
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
answered Apr 16 '16 at 6:10
Ali
111
111
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
Go to restrict editing under Review tab. Click restrict editing and on your right hand will appear a dialogue window. Untick " Highlight the regions I can edit.
The square parenthesis will be removed.
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
add a comment |Â
Go to restrict editing under Review tab. Click restrict editing and on your right hand will appear a dialogue window. Untick " Highlight the regions I can edit.
The square parenthesis will be removed.
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
add a comment |Â
Go to restrict editing under Review tab. Click restrict editing and on your right hand will appear a dialogue window. Untick " Highlight the regions I can edit.
The square parenthesis will be removed.
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
Go to restrict editing under Review tab. Click restrict editing and on your right hand will appear a dialogue window. Untick " Highlight the regions I can edit.
The square parenthesis will be removed.
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
answered May 17 '16 at 5:44
Gerald Musvoriwa
111
111
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
add a comment |Â
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
This duplicates another answer and adds no new content. Please don't post an answer unless you actually have something new to contribute.
– DavidPostill♦
May 30 '16 at 11:53
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
Well, actually, he did contribute the means for opening the Protect Document settings, which the previous answer did not provide.
– kmote
Jun 20 at 17:29
add a comment |Â
To get rid of the gray brackets around editable text in Microsoft Word 2010, go to File Tab - Option - Advanced - stroll down to the Show document content section and deselect Show bookmarks.
Hope this solve your issue.
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
add a comment |Â
To get rid of the gray brackets around editable text in Microsoft Word 2010, go to File Tab - Option - Advanced - stroll down to the Show document content section and deselect Show bookmarks.
Hope this solve your issue.
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
add a comment |Â
To get rid of the gray brackets around editable text in Microsoft Word 2010, go to File Tab - Option - Advanced - stroll down to the Show document content section and deselect Show bookmarks.
Hope this solve your issue.
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
To get rid of the gray brackets around editable text in Microsoft Word 2010, go to File Tab - Option - Advanced - stroll down to the Show document content section and deselect Show bookmarks.
Hope this solve your issue.
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
answered Feb 28 '17 at 19:13
D. D. Lewis
111
111
add a comment |Â
add a comment |Â
After reading all answers and finding no solution to my particular case, I was inspired by the answer regarding Restrict Editing; I went back to my doc and found out it had a [bracket at the beginning and at the end of text]; My solution was to cut the text INSIDE the brackets WITHOUT the brackets and pasting it outside.
Then I just selected the brackets and pressed Delete key. And THAT removed the shading for me.
Hope it helps someone with the same issue.
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
add a comment |Â
After reading all answers and finding no solution to my particular case, I was inspired by the answer regarding Restrict Editing; I went back to my doc and found out it had a [bracket at the beginning and at the end of text]; My solution was to cut the text INSIDE the brackets WITHOUT the brackets and pasting it outside.
Then I just selected the brackets and pressed Delete key. And THAT removed the shading for me.
Hope it helps someone with the same issue.
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
add a comment |Â
After reading all answers and finding no solution to my particular case, I was inspired by the answer regarding Restrict Editing; I went back to my doc and found out it had a [bracket at the beginning and at the end of text]; My solution was to cut the text INSIDE the brackets WITHOUT the brackets and pasting it outside.
Then I just selected the brackets and pressed Delete key. And THAT removed the shading for me.
Hope it helps someone with the same issue.
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
After reading all answers and finding no solution to my particular case, I was inspired by the answer regarding Restrict Editing; I went back to my doc and found out it had a [bracket at the beginning and at the end of text]; My solution was to cut the text INSIDE the brackets WITHOUT the brackets and pasting it outside.
Then I just selected the brackets and pressed Delete key. And THAT removed the shading for me.
Hope it helps someone with the same issue.
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
answered Nov 24 '15 at 21:40
Mr. M
1
1
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add a comment |Â
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I can't reproduce it on my side, can you simplify your document and attach it somewhere?
– Adam
Dec 18 '12 at 11:06
@Adam edited post to add! Thanks for your interest :)
– Brendan
Dec 18 '12 at 18:56
Thanks for that and sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I will post my finding as an answer.
– Adam
Jan 2 '13 at 4:07