How does the `--defsym` linker flag work to pass values to source code?










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In an LJ post, the --defsym flag was used for passing the build date into the source code:



#include <stdio.h>

extern char __BUILD_DATE;

void main(void)
printf("Build date: %un", (unsigned long) &__BUILD_DATE);



by linking with the following flags:



gcc example.c -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d)


According to the ld manual,




--defsym symbol=expression Create a global symbol in the output file, containing the absolute address given by expression.




I am trying to understand the following:



  1. How is the 9-character string for the build date (YYYYmmdd+) stored in memory?

  2. If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?

  3. Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?









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  • That looks like 3 questions to me. Not one. Maybe you want to post 3 individual questions..?
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:10










  • @JesperJuhl I think it's 3 small parts of one questions about the usage of --defsym. It makes no sense to me to split the question.
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:14











  • "Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?" Is definitely a standalone question IMHO. As is "If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?". But, that may just be me.
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:17















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In an LJ post, the --defsym flag was used for passing the build date into the source code:



#include <stdio.h>

extern char __BUILD_DATE;

void main(void)
printf("Build date: %un", (unsigned long) &__BUILD_DATE);



by linking with the following flags:



gcc example.c -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d)


According to the ld manual,




--defsym symbol=expression Create a global symbol in the output file, containing the absolute address given by expression.




I am trying to understand the following:



  1. How is the 9-character string for the build date (YYYYmmdd+) stored in memory?

  2. If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?

  3. Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?









share|improve this question























  • That looks like 3 questions to me. Not one. Maybe you want to post 3 individual questions..?
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:10










  • @JesperJuhl I think it's 3 small parts of one questions about the usage of --defsym. It makes no sense to me to split the question.
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:14











  • "Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?" Is definitely a standalone question IMHO. As is "If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?". But, that may just be me.
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:17













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In an LJ post, the --defsym flag was used for passing the build date into the source code:



#include <stdio.h>

extern char __BUILD_DATE;

void main(void)
printf("Build date: %un", (unsigned long) &__BUILD_DATE);



by linking with the following flags:



gcc example.c -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d)


According to the ld manual,




--defsym symbol=expression Create a global symbol in the output file, containing the absolute address given by expression.




I am trying to understand the following:



  1. How is the 9-character string for the build date (YYYYmmdd+) stored in memory?

  2. If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?

  3. Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?









share|improve this question















In an LJ post, the --defsym flag was used for passing the build date into the source code:



#include <stdio.h>

extern char __BUILD_DATE;

void main(void)
printf("Build date: %un", (unsigned long) &__BUILD_DATE);



by linking with the following flags:



gcc example.c -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d)


According to the ld manual,




--defsym symbol=expression Create a global symbol in the output file, containing the absolute address given by expression.




I am trying to understand the following:



  1. How is the 9-character string for the build date (YYYYmmdd+) stored in memory?

  2. If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?

  3. Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?






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  • That looks like 3 questions to me. Not one. Maybe you want to post 3 individual questions..?
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:10










  • @JesperJuhl I think it's 3 small parts of one questions about the usage of --defsym. It makes no sense to me to split the question.
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:14











  • "Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?" Is definitely a standalone question IMHO. As is "If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?". But, that may just be me.
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:17
















  • That looks like 3 questions to me. Not one. Maybe you want to post 3 individual questions..?
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:10










  • @JesperJuhl I think it's 3 small parts of one questions about the usage of --defsym. It makes no sense to me to split the question.
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:14











  • "Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?" Is definitely a standalone question IMHO. As is "If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?". But, that may just be me.
    – Jesper Juhl
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:17















That looks like 3 questions to me. Not one. Maybe you want to post 3 individual questions..?
– Jesper Juhl
Nov 12 '18 at 22:10




That looks like 3 questions to me. Not one. Maybe you want to post 3 individual questions..?
– Jesper Juhl
Nov 12 '18 at 22:10












@JesperJuhl I think it's 3 small parts of one questions about the usage of --defsym. It makes no sense to me to split the question.
– Sparkler
Nov 12 '18 at 22:14





@JesperJuhl I think it's 3 small parts of one questions about the usage of --defsym. It makes no sense to me to split the question.
– Sparkler
Nov 12 '18 at 22:14













"Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?" Is definitely a standalone question IMHO. As is "If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?". But, that may just be me.
– Jesper Juhl
Nov 12 '18 at 22:17




"Why __BUILD_DATE is defined as char and not unsigned long if it is eventually casted to unsigned long?" Is definitely a standalone question IMHO. As is "If --defsym creates a symbol containing an address, why __BUILD_DATE is defined as a char and not as a pointer or as an integral type?". But, that may just be me.
– Jesper Juhl
Nov 12 '18 at 22:17












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Linkers see globals as addresses (pointers to the "actual" global rather than the actual global -- even if the actual global doesn't exist at that address). -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) sets the address of __BUILD_DATE not the value. When the __BUILD_DATE linker entity has an address but not a value, you can get the address by declaring the entity as anything and then taking the address of that.



In:



#include <stdio.h>

//extern long __BUILD_DATE[128];
//extern int __BUILD_DATE;
extern char __BUILD_DATE;

int main(void)

printf("Build date: %lun", (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE);



Any of the three declarations should work. Just don't try to use the value of that (pseudo) global. That would be like dereferencing an invalid pointer.



That should answer 2 and 3. To answer 1, -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) stores the number returned (stdout) by $(date %Y%m%d) as the address of __BUILD_DATE. It doesn't store a string.






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  • so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:59










  • @Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:02






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    Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:07











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Linkers see globals as addresses (pointers to the "actual" global rather than the actual global -- even if the actual global doesn't exist at that address). -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) sets the address of __BUILD_DATE not the value. When the __BUILD_DATE linker entity has an address but not a value, you can get the address by declaring the entity as anything and then taking the address of that.



In:



#include <stdio.h>

//extern long __BUILD_DATE[128];
//extern int __BUILD_DATE;
extern char __BUILD_DATE;

int main(void)

printf("Build date: %lun", (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE);



Any of the three declarations should work. Just don't try to use the value of that (pseudo) global. That would be like dereferencing an invalid pointer.



That should answer 2 and 3. To answer 1, -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) stores the number returned (stdout) by $(date %Y%m%d) as the address of __BUILD_DATE. It doesn't store a string.






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  • so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:59










  • @Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:02






  • 1




    Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:07
















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Linkers see globals as addresses (pointers to the "actual" global rather than the actual global -- even if the actual global doesn't exist at that address). -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) sets the address of __BUILD_DATE not the value. When the __BUILD_DATE linker entity has an address but not a value, you can get the address by declaring the entity as anything and then taking the address of that.



In:



#include <stdio.h>

//extern long __BUILD_DATE[128];
//extern int __BUILD_DATE;
extern char __BUILD_DATE;

int main(void)

printf("Build date: %lun", (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE);



Any of the three declarations should work. Just don't try to use the value of that (pseudo) global. That would be like dereferencing an invalid pointer.



That should answer 2 and 3. To answer 1, -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) stores the number returned (stdout) by $(date %Y%m%d) as the address of __BUILD_DATE. It doesn't store a string.






share|improve this answer






















  • so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:59










  • @Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:02






  • 1




    Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:07














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Linkers see globals as addresses (pointers to the "actual" global rather than the actual global -- even if the actual global doesn't exist at that address). -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) sets the address of __BUILD_DATE not the value. When the __BUILD_DATE linker entity has an address but not a value, you can get the address by declaring the entity as anything and then taking the address of that.



In:



#include <stdio.h>

//extern long __BUILD_DATE[128];
//extern int __BUILD_DATE;
extern char __BUILD_DATE;

int main(void)

printf("Build date: %lun", (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE);



Any of the three declarations should work. Just don't try to use the value of that (pseudo) global. That would be like dereferencing an invalid pointer.



That should answer 2 and 3. To answer 1, -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) stores the number returned (stdout) by $(date %Y%m%d) as the address of __BUILD_DATE. It doesn't store a string.






share|improve this answer














Linkers see globals as addresses (pointers to the "actual" global rather than the actual global -- even if the actual global doesn't exist at that address). -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) sets the address of __BUILD_DATE not the value. When the __BUILD_DATE linker entity has an address but not a value, you can get the address by declaring the entity as anything and then taking the address of that.



In:



#include <stdio.h>

//extern long __BUILD_DATE[128];
//extern int __BUILD_DATE;
extern char __BUILD_DATE;

int main(void)

printf("Build date: %lun", (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE);



Any of the three declarations should work. Just don't try to use the value of that (pseudo) global. That would be like dereferencing an invalid pointer.



That should answer 2 and 3. To answer 1, -Xlinker --defsym -Xlinker __BUILD_DATE=$(date +%Y%m%d) stores the number returned (stdout) by $(date %Y%m%d) as the address of __BUILD_DATE. It doesn't store a string.







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  • so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:59










  • @Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:02






  • 1




    Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:07

















  • so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
    – Sparkler
    Nov 12 '18 at 22:59










  • @Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:02






  • 1




    Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
    – PSkocik
    Nov 12 '18 at 23:07
















so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
– Sparkler
Nov 12 '18 at 22:59




so anything passed using --defsym can only be as large as size_t/ptrdiff_t?
– Sparkler
Nov 12 '18 at 22:59












@Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
– PSkocik
Nov 12 '18 at 23:02




@Sparkler There doesn't need to be much of a correlation between the linker's limits and the limits of C types, but practically you very likely won't be able to store addresses larger than your SIZE_MAX.
– PSkocik
Nov 12 '18 at 23:02




1




1




Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
– PSkocik
Nov 12 '18 at 23:07





Interestingly, the above's only working for me with clang. I can't quite get it to work if I use gcc for linking (with whatever -fuse-ld option or without it). The debugger always shows the stored timestamp if I do p (unsigned long)&__BUILD_DATE but the program's printing the stored value offset by 0xffffaaaaaaaac000 but only if my system's address layout randomization's off. (Otherwise it's random). I don't have an explanation for this.
– PSkocik
Nov 12 '18 at 23:07


















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